The mill remained in the Crider and Shelhorse famalies for almost a hundred years. James Moody Shelhorse married Susan Crider, a grand daughter of Daniel Crider in 1857. In 1879, James M. Shelhorse purchased the "mill tract" and 255 acres of land.
James Moody Shelhorse (1837-c1888)
James Moody Shelhorse was born July 26, 1837 and died before June 25, 1888. This hand colored portrait of James came to my wife Nancye from her cousin Carol Ramsey Savage in Colorado. Another cousin, Cathy Skora, provided some of the old family photographs. James M. Shelhorse was their great grandfather. 
This 1887 map from Pittsylvania Courthouse shows the location of the old 1791 Daniel Crider Mill at Toshes. The mill is near the road on the south side of the road. Note the dotted line which is the Franklin and Pittsylvania Railroad. The nickname "Fast and Perfect" was a complete joke. It was neither. During its 54 years of existence, there was one year when a profit was realized from its operation from Gretna to Rocky Mount. The railroad was said to have crossed what is now state route 40, back and forth, as many as 39 times. The tract at right labeled "Jas. M. Shelhorse former purchase 46 acres" makes the total acreage over 300 acres.
This is the 46 or 49 acres (surveys have a disclaimer "be it more or less") which shows "The Old Shelhorse House." This is a part of the map above. The adjacent lands on the southeast are those of Col. George T. Berger. The "Road from Crider's Old Mill" is now SR 768 "Milam Road."
Angeline Gregory Hughey (1846-1911)Angeline was born November 22, 1846 and died on March 30, 1911. She married George W. Hughey. Their two sons died in 1882 during the diphtheria epidemic. As a widow, Angeline went to live with her nephew Peyton W. Barbour and his wife Ardenia "Dennie." Ardenia Elizabeth Shelhorse, who married Peyton W. Barbour, was a daughter of James Moody Shelhorse and wife the former Susan Crider.
Christopher Martin Barbour (1841-1910) & Caroline Elizabeth Gregory Barbour (1846-1927) (marriage 27 Nov 1870). This is from a tin-type photograph.Caroline Gregory was born on November 22, 1846 and died August 1, 1927. She is buried on the Old Mine Road near Toshes. When her mother Melissa died at childbirth, she and Angeline were taken in by their grandfather William Crider and his wife Celia.
This is the census taker's own handwriting when he came around the "Berger's Store" post office area around Frying Pan Creek on June 29, 1860. The area around Crider's Mill was called Berger's Store after a store on the road not far south of the mill. Jacob Berber was born on December 1745 in Pennsylvania and came to Pittsylvania County with William Crider. William Crider's wife Catherine Berger was a sister of Jacob. The Berger property was adjacent to the Crider property on the south. With William Crider, who was born in 1791, and his wife Celia, who was born in 1795, is their son Peyton William Crider and the twins Angeline and Caroline, then 14 years old. At this time, James M. Shelhorse and William's daughter Susan A. and two of their sons, Peyton W. and James D. Shelhorse. 2010 is a census year. It is interesting to imagine the census worker knocking on the Crider's door and listing these nine people for a permanent record. The census today is entrusted to the White House and the U. S. mail. Does that give you confidence? This was before the Civil War began. There were probably slaves on the plantation at this time which were passed down from Daniel Crider.
Peyton William Barbour, born 1874, was a son of Christopher Martin and Caroline Gregory Barbour.
Ardenia Shelhorse Barbour (1878-1965) married Peyton W. Barbour on 7 October 1896. Their son Ray Barbour was my wife Nancye's father.
Read more about the mill:
http://cridersmill.blogspot.com/2010/05/exploring-mill-site-on-frying-pan-creek.html
Thanks Danny for getting this together. My grandmother would like you.
ReplyDeleteDanny, I was thrilled to find this blog, as Daniel Kreider/Crider and Catherine Berger Crider were my 4th great-grandparents. I have been to Toshes several times and spoke once to Herman Melton about Daniel's mill. I was told that it was up the hill from the Berger house, but no one knew the exact spot. It is wonderful that you and your son found the site. Another Toshes resident was Conrad Crayne/Green, a former Hessian soldier who came on a wagon train led by Harmon Cook with the Deboes and the Rohrers from Lancaster, PA. in 1788. Conrad's son, George married Daniel's granddaughter, Mary Polly Crider, the daughter of Jacob Crider. Conrad's land was located by a friend of mine, Julian
ReplyDeleteJohnson, who is a Shellhorse descendant. It is located near the corner of Hwy. 40 from Gretna and the road into Toshes. There's an old tobacco building on the property and a while house to the north.
I have done research on DAniel and would like to make a correction to Daniel Daniel's biography. I know that you would like to have documented information on your blog. Please email me at hgpflueger@gmail.com. Jake and Pomp Berger didn't know that the Catherine who married Jacob (1) was their ancestor, Catherine Berger, who had married Daniel Crider.
Thanks so much for your blog and for identifying Daniel's mill site. I can't wait to see it someday. Hazel Pflueger, Florence, MT
Just saw this. Email me dan@rdricketts.com
DeleteNot sure where to begin as this blog has completely overwhelmed me. I am a descendant of Peyton W. Crider, son of William, grandson of Daniel. Peyton fathered 5 children with a mulatto woman named Sarah Crider (no doubt a slave/former slave). If you look further down the census roll you have copied here, you will see the names If not this please see 1870. Don't be fooled, they were listed as white on the 1870 abd then mulatto on subsequent census rolls. The information you provided about the division of the land explains why on the 1880 census my 3G grandmother Sarah Crider and her children had moved to Sandy Level, as I suspect they were "booted" off the land upon Peytons death. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. latoyaw123@comcast.net. Thank you so much.
ReplyDeleteLocal history buff here, no affiliation with the family. I encountered that great chimney (miller's house) in the summer of 2010 while working for the census and I was really struck at how nice it was. I say was because it's gone. I returned early last year with a friend and there was no trace of it. That's really a shame because the way I see it, landmarks like that are our "castles" or "pyramids." It's not much maybe but it's all we got! That chimney seemed so ancient compared to our Chinese drywall and propane tanks and forgettable architecture of today. It's great that you posted that photo but any photo would fall short; one really had to see that thing in person to appreciate it. I was definitely thrilled to see your photograph as the image on Google maps was not so great!
ReplyDeleteThat is so sad that the chimney is gone! It's a shame we don't save our landmarks.Our old Crider farm in Tennessee was on the national Historic record and while unoccupied it mysteriously burned to the ground.All that is left is the old family cemetery.
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The original Crider name was Kreider. Daniel was the son of John MIchael Kreider who came from Palatinate Germany to Philadelphia in 1732. Daniel did not have a middle name, thus he should not be identified with the middle name of Berger. Jacob Berger was a friend of Daniels as they knew each other in Pennsylvania. Jacob's sister, Catherine Berger, was married to Daniel Kreider. Jacob and his family moved to Toshes in 1784 and Daniel and his family followed the Bergers down to Toshes in 1786. I traveled to Toshes several times in the 1990s as I was doing research on my ancestor, Conrad Grein, who had settled in Toshes in 1789. Conrad was a former Hessian soldier who had been captured at the Battle of Trenton and deserted to move to Toshes in 1789. I am related to Daniel Kreider through his son Jacob and his daughter, Mary Polly Crider who married George Green. Hazel Green Pflueger. September 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM
ReplyDeleteDear Hazel -we have been doing some family research and came across your comments. My wife Jane traces part of her family tree back to Daniel via her mother (Daniel, Jacob, William, William H., Jacob M., Sara..) your comments are helpful in giving us insights into the history! Jon and Jane Black, Carlisle PA
DeleteHazel I am glad you made this correction. Daniel was born in Pennsylvania, not Germany and his father John Michael arrived in the Philadelphia Harbor on August 11,1732 on the Ship Samuel..Daniel is my 4 x greatgrandfather. I love the research Danny has done. I've learned so much about the Criders and Bergers through his research and photos.His pictures and stories bring the families to life for me! My mother is a Crider. Jan Powell McGrann
ReplyDeleteI am Bernard Wayne Crider (Wayne) from Chatham, VA. My people were all over the Chatham, Danville, Gretna, Toshes, Penhook areas. This is the most info I have ever seen on the ancestry. My Grandfather was George Daniel Crider. He was married twice, first to Mary then to Lucy Jacobs. His father was David Crider from Toshes. I have always heard that Crider's, Berger's, Shellhorse families intermarried.
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